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New plan for SM screening in Cavaliers

18 Sep 2008 08:12

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CAVALIER Clubs, the Kennel Club and the Animal Health Trust are hoping to develop programmes to screen for syringomyelia (SM) and mitral valve disease.
To speed up work already being done, the KC, said the objective now was also to design ‘sensible, practical and successful breeding strategies’ which would enable Cavalier breeders ‘to ensure the future prosperity of the breed.’
“One of the approaches being investigated would use a technique called ‘estimated breeding values,’ a tool which has been developed by scientists and has proved successful in the breeding of livestock,” a KC spokesman said.
“Another way of speeding up such work is for more Cavaliers to be MRI scanned for syringomyelia, and we, the Animal Health Trust and the Cavalier clubs are looking into whether effective screening programmes can be developed to enable this. Similar work is being done to develop effective screening for the heart condition mitral valve disease.”
Following the programme Pedigree Dogs Exposed and fears about the health of Cavaliers, the KC said it wanted to address ‘the real facts surrounding this charming and popular breed and the work which is ongoing on its behalf.’
“First and foremost, the incidence of the disease syringomyelia is very much in dispute,” the spokesman said.

Positive action

“However, this is ultimately of no great consequence and it is not delaying the many positive actions being taken to address the problems by the Cavalier breed clubs, the Kennel Club Charitable Trust and the Kennel Club itself,” the spokesman said.
“Large amounts of time, effort and money continue to be invested to establish the precise modes of inheritance of both syringomyelia and the heart condition mitral valve disease which also affects some Cavaliers.
“The science surrounding these problems is not simple but work is in hand which hopefully will enable breeders to solve the problems the vast majority of them recognised and took in hand some years ago.
“Only through the careful use of the available science can the problems of Cavaliers ultimately be resolved.” 
Lesley Jupp, chairman of the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Club, said: “The club has conducted extensive work for the past 20 years in the endeavour to combat health issues within the breed.
“Cavalier breeders now have the golden opportunity to be the first to take advantage of the estimated breeding value scheme being developed at the Animal Heath Trust.
“The scheme has the support of all Cavalier breed clubs and I am sure that, with a united front, substantial progress can be achieved in dealing with our health problems.” 
For a full list of the health initiatives undertaken by the club visit www.doggenetichealth.org.
• The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel Club is holding a special general meeting in Derbyshire on Oct 5 in a bid to expel one of its members, Margaret Carter, who appeared in the programme Pedigree Dogs Exposed.

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    Does the ‘estimated breeding values’ program still requires breeders to continue to MRI and MVD test their dogs plus follow recommended breeding protocols, and if so what are the Cavalier Club and Kennel Club doing to ensure that all their breeders do MRI and MVD test their dogs plus follow recommended breeding protocols. In the documentary they made it appear that the Cavalier BIS winner might not have, and is the Cavalier Club and Kennel Club doing some investigation regarding this, for if there is going to be a sequel to the documentary I think that BIS winner may appear again and where club officials might be asked questions. I hope the ‘estimated breeding values’ program works really well, and lets hope that the DNA gene(s) for SM/CM and MVD are found and identified as soon as possible so that DNA testing can be made available to Cavalier breeders. As to the Cavalier Club’s SGM involving Margaret Carter, I think the media might be waiting outside to interview people as they leave the meeting.

    Posted at 21:23 on 18 Sep 2008 by
    Quincy | Report as inappropriate

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    Yes The CKCS club have worked had for 20 years but during that period it has failed to observe that certain breeders have become far to powerful and effectively re-written the breed standard to facilitate their own greedy desires based on financial gain, coupled to the abilty to produce show dogs that are of a style that no others can match. As for working together with others, they all need to sing from mthe same song sheet and stop trying to score points against eachother. Far too much data is retained by some as they fear others will release papers and receive world wide academic credit. With all this ongoing research, dont be surprised that other issues will be uncovered. The more we look, the more we find and the better we get at finding fault. As the top breeders are NOT generally having their dogs tested, for anything, it does seem that it will be left to others to provide data such as blood and swabs to show where the problem breeding lines are to be found. So watch out you big names, the system is coming after you and you cannot hide from the EBV proposals!

    Posted at 21:31 on 18 Sep 2008 by
    Matty | Report as inappropriate

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    Matty That is an interesting comment because from knowledge that I have SM affects Cavaliers form all levels of breeding including back yard breeders, puppy farms and others. What information do you have that the general public does not that makes you target a small group over a larger population? Betty

    Posted at 20:24 on 19 Sep 2008 by
    Salty | Report as inappropriate

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    Another way of speeding up such work is for more Cavaliers to be MRI scanned for syringomyelia, and we, the Animal Health Trust and the Cavalier clubs are looking into whether effective screening programmes can be developed to enable this. Similar work is being done to develop effective screening for the heart condition mitral valve disease.” Quote from New plan for SM screening in Cavaliers How on earth are they going to scan more Cavaliers when these breeders won't do it now. Mrs V. Barwell openly said I will not MRI scan my dogs she is but one of many who do not think scanning is the answer, so what hope have we? Just read the breed notes to know what they are all thinking, anyone who has to write such long and confluting notes must be trying to prove a point. I would also like it to be know that I wrote to the parent club requesting the Breeder of the best in show at Malvern be banned from club membership, the reply was it will be tabled at the next meeting, why if this breeder also broke the code of ethics have we as members of the club not recieved a letter informing us of a SGM in order to remove her, are they saying that she did not? What proof do we have of that? NONE

    Posted at 01:15 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    HollyDolly | Report as inappropriate

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    Salty, It IS the big recognised names that have the top stud dogs and breeding bitches. They are also the ones (apart from some, who are doing their best) who are refusing to get their stock scanned - insisting that they do not have MS in their dogs. Therefore they continue to breed dog to dog without ensuring that their dogs are of a quality that justifies the stud fee! I am waiting for someone to make a complaint to the Police that they parted with good money believing that they were getting a healthy dog/bitch when infact the animal was ill. Some breeders are also breeding KCS with CKCS and not disclosing this fact, registering the puppies as CKCS. This MUST also stop.It is dishonest!

    Posted at 11:33 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    Matty | Report as inappropriate

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    Apologies my reference to MS should of course read SM.

    Posted at 11:36 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    Matty | Report as inappropriate

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    Matty, if you suspect a case of crossing then obtain a cheek swab and send it to www.canineheritage.com and if you look on the breeds page CKCS are listed and so is KCS under American breed name of English Toy Spaniel. The result could come back as 100% pure or cross and if so with what, if cross then use that to launch further investigation by authoraties and where pedigrees would need to be sorted out by the Kennel Club with DNA Profile testings.

    Posted at 16:02 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    Quincy | Report as inappropriate

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    HollyDolly You really need to read your Club Rules. If you send a complaint in then that must be investigated before any ruling can be made. One person cannot call a SGM it needs a minimum of 25 signatures. This was the case for the SGM that has been called.

    Posted at 16:47 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    dogman | Report as inappropriate

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    dogman. I certainly do know the clubs rules and I certainly know that far more than 25 have written or e mailed asking for this breeder of the best in show at Malvern to be banned from club membership. I wonder why some people who post have to be so sarcastic and rude it must be their have not got the courage of their convictions and need to be like this to compensate, you know like men with fast cars.

    Posted at 18:28 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    HollyDolly | Report as inappropriate

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    Science and screening is not going to solve the problems of MVD or SM in Cavaliers if breeders continue to breed dogs as an extension of their own ego and are willing to sacrifice the health and welfare of their breed on the altar of their own ambition. We have had recommendations for screening to help lower the rate of MVD in Cavaliers now for 10 years. That is not new science. Still 80% of the dogs competing at the Malvern show (that has been so hilighted) were bred without heed of the MVD breeding recommendations, and more than half of the dogs at the Malvern show have also been used at stud forgetting the MVD breeding recommendations. This is without even looking at the bitches. This too early breeding seems to be accepted within the culture of many of those who are breeding Cavaliers at the top levels. The science will be of no use if the culture does not change.

    Posted at 21:11 on 20 Sep 2008 by
    Shirley | Report as inappropriate

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    I don't own Cavaliers nor do I breed any dogs but I would applaud Margaret Carter for what I've seen/heard of her work! Surely as the Health Advisor for the Breed Club they didn't expect her to keep quiet and ignore what was going on? good for her! and if the Club expels her then I'm sure there will be lots of people watching the KC as to the justification of it. I'm with HollyDolly and if (as you say) lots of people have also written in and nothing is done then you need to cc everything to the KC! Speak out against anything you see that is going on and is wrong! I can't abide double-standards and hypocrites & unfortunately a few breeders with no scruples ruin it for the rest.

    Posted at 04:22 on 25 Sep 2008 by
    RUBYSCRUMPTIOUS | Report as inappropriate

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    There are no double standards here. M. Carter had a responsibility on that health commttee and she went and acted on her own without permission and used her position as a mark of authority. The Committee could/should remove her. If she wanted to toot her own horn she should have resigned from the committee before doing so. I don't know what occupation you have in real life but believe me if you criticised your company publically while collecting a paycheck, you would be fired. She accepted the job on the HC and she deserved to give them her loyalty and fight her battles within the meeting room. When you take on a volunteer job you still have standards by which you act.She violated those standards. M. Carter has also had a stud dog with SM who had sired many, many litters. I wonder if the tables were turned if she would want to meet the same fate as she exposed the breeder on the program? Did she refund all her stud fees, offer to pay vet bills, take back puppies? And whose word do we have about the MRI on that dog in the program? Margaret's only. I don't care how many MRI's she has seen or not seen, that does not make her an authority. I have seen millions of cars in my lifetime but I don't think I could build one.The dog in the film may have met the standards for breeding within the protocol set up. I don't know, you don't know and I cannot be certain that M. Carter knows. Gossip, rumour , and innuendoes are powerful weapons. Unfortunately, they are like weeds . No matter how many you try to eradicate and control, some seeds will escape and fall in horse manure and grow. Yes scruples...let's use them. Canuck

    Posted at 17:30 on 26 Sep 2008 by
    Salty | Report as inappropriate